About the 10R80 & Common Problems
Ford 10R80 10-Speed Automatic Transmission History
Car makers don’t often collaborate on projects, especially when they’re direct competitors. However, looming government fuel economy and emissions mandates can make strange bedfellows. And so, the Ford 10R80 10-speed automatic transmission was born. It was co-developed with General Motors, although Ford apparently took the engineering lead on the design. The mission was to create a 10 speed transmission that could improve both the fuel efficiency and performance of high-horsepower engines. The resulting Ford 10R80 transmission was advanced enough to handle the power of the Ford Mustang GT 5.0 and Ford F150 Raptor, while improving the efficiency of the Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator. So let’s look at what it has to offer.
Replacement 10R80 Transmission Prices:
** Currently 10R80 units are 2017+ so are dealer-only or salvage yard only.
2017+ 10R80 Applications and Compatibility:
10R80 Transmission Overview
Like it or not, a CVT transmission is one of the most efficient gearboxes ever invented. Because there are no actual gears, optimal engine speed can be continuously maintained depending on the load. This allows for seamless acceleration under hard throttle, and lower fuel consumption when you’re just cruising. On a traditional geared transmission, a certain amount of energy gets lost every time a gear ratio is changed. This penalizes both fuel economy and performance, because the engine has to climb back to the RPMs it was just at. The Ford 10R80 10-speed transmission is designed to combine the efficiency benefits of a CVT, with the stepped feel of a traditional automatic transmission.
To create this optimal blend of performance and efficiency, the 10R80 transmission has a wide 7.39 gear ratio spread and a low 4.70 first gear for maximum performance off-the-line. Even though this Ford 10 speed automatic transmission has such a wide gear ratio, it has extremely small steps between the gears. This means the engine RPM only drops (approximately) 20% with each shift, which keeps the engine in the ideal RPM range to achieve either peak performance or efficiency (much like a CVT transmission). The Ford 10R80 also has three overdrive gears, which it can downshift from very quickly.
Although you might think this Ford 10 speed transmission would be huge considering the number of gears, it really isn’t. Ingenious packaging allows the 10R80 transmission to fit into roughly the same footprint as a more conventional Ford 6-speed automatic transmission. To make this possible, a special space saving triple-clutch assembly (there are six clutches in total; 2 brake, 4 rotating) is mounted toward the middle of the one-piece aluminum case (there’s also four gearsets in there too). there’s also a slim 260mm 10R80 torque converter mounted inside of the built-in bell housing, and the entire transmission weighs just 230 pounds, because it’s made entirely of aluminum.
Of course, having 10 gear ratios provides the 10R80 transmission controller plenty of options to choose from. But efficient design also contributes to this gearbox’s capability. To that end, and has just four gearsets and six clutches. Just two of those clutches are ever open at any one time to reduce spin loss, and a special internal thermal bypass makes the transmission fluid heat up faster, so additional fuel isn’t burned on cold mornings. Plus, the off-axis main pump can vary the transmission fluid pressure depending on the load, and the second 10R80 transmission pump is powered by electricity for use with stop/start systems.
10R80 Transmission Specs
General – 10-speed automatic with integral turbine clutch torque converter
Application – RWD & 4WD / AWD
Production Began – 2017
Case – 1 piece aluminum with integrated bell housing
Torque Converter – 260 mm with Electronic Controlled Capacity Clutch (10R80 ECCC)
Weight – 230+ lbs (weight varies depending on application)
Fluid Type – Motorcraft ULV ATF
Fluid Capacity – 13 qts
10R80 Transmission Gear Ratios
First – 4.70
Second – 2.99
Third – 2.15
Fourth – 1.80
Fifth – 1.52
Sixth – 1.28
Seventh – 1.00
Eighth – 0.85
Ninth – 0.69
Tenth – 0.64
Reverse – 4.87
10R80 Transmission Diagnostic Trouble Codes
|P0711||Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit Range/Performance|
|P0741||Torque Converter Clutch Circuit|
10R80 Transmission Problems & Technical Service Bulletins
TSB 18-2079 – Harsh or delayed shifting and/or P0711 DTC – 10R80 Transmission
Problem – Some owners may experience usually harsh or delayed gear changes. There may also be a P0711 diagnostic trouble code saved in the transmission control module
Solution – The powertrain control module will need to be updated with new software (release 108.04 or higher). Once the update is complete, the adaptive transmission shift strategy program may temporarily cause usually firm upshifts and downshifts while it ”relearns” your driving style.
TSB 18-2160 – Check Engine Light
Problem – Owners may notice and check engine/transmission light illuminated inside the gauge cluster. Further investigation may reveal the following diagnostic trouble codes: P0741, P1744
Solution – This 10R80 transmission problem may be caused by a sticking torque converter clutch valve / 10R80 TCC valve inside the valve body. If this is the case, the main control valve body will have to be replaced.
10R80 Transmission Recalls
Ford 10R80 Transmission Recall – 18V213000 /18S09
The Ford Motor Company had to recall certain 2017-2018 models of the Ford Expedition, Ford F-150, Ford Mustang and Lincoln Navigator that were equipped with the 10R80 10 speed transmission. It seems that a roll pin may not have been properly installed inside the transmission. This can lead to a loss of the Park function, resulting in possible injury or property damage.
Even though the transmission shift lever may have been placed in the ‘Park’ position, the vehicle may roll away if the parking brake is not been set.
In order to fix this rather serious 10R80 transmission problem, Ford dealers will inspect the transmission to determine if the roll pin is missing. Should one be needed, it will be installed free of charge. Ford began notifying owners in April 2018. Owners can contact Ford customer service at 1-866-436-7332, referring to the Ford recall 18S09. Or they can contact the national Highway traffic safety administration at 1-888-327-4236, referring to recall 18V213000.
Used 10R80 vs. Rebuilt vs. Remanufactured
If you’re having problems with your 10R80 you’re going to want the most economical solution.
A rebuilt 10R80 will only have a certain number of components that get replaced. So the service life is limited, and the warranty will only last 1-2 years.
A used 10R80 is pulled from a wrecked vehicle, so there’s no telling what may be wrong with it, or how long it will last.
A remanufactured 10R80 on the other hand, is completely remanufactured, and it’s designed to exceed the manufacturer’s original specifications. That way you get a longer service life, along with a 3-year/Unlimited Mile Nationwide Warranty.’
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